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	<title>Comments on: NRA: &#8220;We Look Forward to Showing Him &#8216;Bitter&#8217;,&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: zee</title>
		<link>http://roadsassy.com/2008/07/03/nra-we-look-forward-to-showing-him-bitter/#comment-1378</link>
		<dc:creator>zee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div&gt;Hi MK,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; I hope those people got lawyers and sued the pants off the state in that case.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;In one of the comments above I link to the NRA going to bat for them, but, you are right, they need to sue Nagin and whomever else.
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&lt;div&gt;Isn't the licensing absurd? It's like some half-wits attempt at sloppy psychological profiling. It is anal retentive and ever so representative of the "progressive's" control freak mindset. They pride themselves on "nuancing". I'd simply call it neurotic.&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi MK,</div>
<div><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> I hope those people got lawyers and sued the pants off the state in that case.</span></span></div>
<div>In one of the comments above I link to the NRA going to bat for them, but, you are right, they need to sue Nagin and whomever else.
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<div>Isn&#8217;t the licensing absurd? It&#8217;s like some half-wits attempt at sloppy psychological profiling. It is anal retentive and ever so representative of the &#8220;progressive&#8217;s&#8221; control freak mindset. They pride themselves on &#8220;nuancing&#8221;. I&#8217;d simply call it neurotic.</div>
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		<title>By: MK</title>
		<link>http://roadsassy.com/2008/07/03/nra-we-look-forward-to-showing-him-bitter/#comment-1376</link>
		<dc:creator>MK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yes, this is where licensing leads, that's just the start, get people to fill in forms and soon it'll be why, then how many, what type, how many bullets and eventually just one gun becomes no gun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes, this is where licensing leads, that&#8217;s just the start, get people to fill in forms and soon it&#8217;ll be why, then how many, what type, how many bullets and eventually just one gun becomes no gun.</p>
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		<title>By: MK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this video. I had a feeling that scumbag Nagin was behind it. This shows why the citizens need to bear arms, when the state turns nasty. I hope those people got lawyers and sued the pants off the state in that case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this video. I had a feeling that scumbag Nagin was behind it. This shows why the citizens need to bear arms, when the state turns nasty. I hope those people got lawyers and sued the pants off the state in that case.</p>
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		<title>By: Akira</title>
		<link>http://roadsassy.com/2008/07/03/nra-we-look-forward-to-showing-him-bitter/#comment-1368</link>
		<dc:creator>Akira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Violent crime &lt;a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1561354/Why-violent-crime-has-doubled-in-a-decade.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;has doubled&lt;/a&gt; since Labour came to power a decade ago. Stabbings and assault in Britain are now common, if not daily occurrences; at night city centers are generally regarded as no-go areas; “feral” youths and gangs loitering the streets – often drunk on cheap alcohol – make many people too afraid to go for a walk on a summer evening.
&lt;a href="http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3387" title="Read the rest of this posting." rel="nofollow"&gt;continue reading&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Violent crime <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1561354/Why-violent-crime-has-doubled-in-a-decade.html" rel="nofollow">has doubled</a> since Labour came to power a decade ago. Stabbings and assault in Britain are now common, if not daily occurrences; at night city centers are generally regarded as no-go areas; “feral” youths and gangs loitering the streets – often drunk on cheap alcohol – make many people too afraid to go for a walk on a summer evening.<br />
<a href="http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3387" title="Read the rest of this posting." rel="nofollow">continue reading</a></p>
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		<title>By: zee</title>
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		<dc:creator>zee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So North Koreans, Vietnamese, Iranian Jihadis and Belorussians will have more rights during the Olympics than will law-abiding Britons.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Boy, you are just chock full of cheery news aren't you?! :-&#124;
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;...do these people just complain? Or have they/NRA/lawyers taken action, such as suing Ray Nagin or having him charged federally for 2nd amendment rights violations?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good question. Seems that they did step in.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192347,00.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;NEW ORLEANS —  Under pressure from the National Rifle&lt;/a&gt; Association, police this week began returning guns confiscated after Hurricane Katrina.

The police department is making the guns available three days a week. At the close of the second day Wednesday, police said only 17 of about 700 weapons had been returned.

Police and soldiers removed guns from houses after the storm flooded the city, and they confiscated guns from some evacuees.

The NRA and other groups sued the city, saying it took away people's means of protection amid the lawlessness that gripped New Orleans.

"Natural disasters may destroy great cities, but they do not destroy civil rights," said Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, which joined the NRA in the lawsuit.

The lawsuit was dropped after the city agreed to return the guns.
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&lt;blockquote&gt;are just well-intentioned but ill-informed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
and conditioned by media to have a knee jerk reaction to the sight of a gun. I do not know how many shows I have watched where, at the appearance of a gun, some character flinches and winces and demands the gun be sent out of the house or some such nonsense. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So North Koreans, Vietnamese, Iranian Jihadis and Belorussians will have more rights during the Olympics than will law-abiding Britons.</p></blockquote>
<p>Boy, you are just chock full of cheery news aren&#8217;t you?! <img src='http://roadsassy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':-|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;do these people just complain? Or have they/NRA/lawyers taken action, such as suing Ray Nagin or having him charged federally for 2nd amendment rights violations?</p></blockquote>
<p>Good question. Seems that they did step in.</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192347,00.html" rel="nofollow">NEW ORLEANS —  Under pressure from the National Rifle</a> Association, police this week began returning guns confiscated after Hurricane Katrina.</p>
<p>The police department is making the guns available three days a week. At the close of the second day Wednesday, police said only 17 of about 700 weapons had been returned.</p>
<p>Police and soldiers removed guns from houses after the storm flooded the city, and they confiscated guns from some evacuees.</p>
<p>The NRA and other groups sued the city, saying it took away people&#8217;s means of protection amid the lawlessness that gripped New Orleans.</p>
<p>&#8220;Natural disasters may destroy great cities, but they do not destroy civil rights,&#8221; said Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, which joined the NRA in the lawsuit.</p>
<p>The lawsuit was dropped after the city agreed to return the guns.
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<blockquote><p>are just well-intentioned but ill-informed.</p></blockquote>
<p>and conditioned by media to have a knee jerk reaction to the sight of a gun. I do not know how many shows I have watched where, at the appearance of a gun, some character flinches and winces and demands the gun be sent out of the house or some such nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Akira</title>
		<link>http://roadsassy.com/2008/07/03/nra-we-look-forward-to-showing-him-bitter/#comment-1366</link>
		<dc:creator>Akira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again.

While there are some people who want guns banned no matter what,  I believe that most people, whether in Canada, the US, Australia or the UK, are just well-intentioned but ill-informed.

Most people who say things like, "If you have to register a car, then what's the big deal about registering a car?" have no idea what is involved. 

Imagine asking people on their driving test, "have you ever been involved in any kind of conflict? Do you have any kind of emotional problem? Give me a list of everyone you've been involved with. And I'll need someone to vouch for your character."

The fact that most people are unaware that gun possession and gun homicides (and knifings, home invasions, etc) have increased in the UK since handguns were banned in 1997 is further proof (if needed...) that reporters are overwhelmingly statist.

Re New Orleans, do these people just complain? Or have they/NRA/lawyers taken action, such as suing Ray Nagin or having him charged federally for 2nd amendment rights violations?

What they didn't mention in that video is the reason that the police took those actions in the first place: New Orleans is crawling with gun-toting thugs (including some cops).

ANd finally, you'll be happy to hear that the British government has suspended many of it's gun laws for the duration of a famous pagan festival that will take place in London in 2012.

So North Koreans, Vietnamese, Iranian Jihadis and Belorussians will have more rights during the Olympics than will law-abiding Britons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again.</p>
<p>While there are some people who want guns banned no matter what,  I believe that most people, whether in Canada, the US, Australia or the UK, are just well-intentioned but ill-informed.</p>
<p>Most people who say things like, &#8220;If you have to register a car, then what&#8217;s the big deal about registering a car?&#8221; have no idea what is involved. </p>
<p>Imagine asking people on their driving test, &#8220;have you ever been involved in any kind of conflict? Do you have any kind of emotional problem? Give me a list of everyone you&#8217;ve been involved with. And I&#8217;ll need someone to vouch for your character.&#8221;</p>
<p>The fact that most people are unaware that gun possession and gun homicides (and knifings, home invasions, etc) have increased in the UK since handguns were banned in 1997 is further proof (if needed&#8230;) that reporters are overwhelmingly statist.</p>
<p>Re New Orleans, do these people just complain? Or have they/NRA/lawyers taken action, such as suing Ray Nagin or having him charged federally for 2nd amendment rights violations?</p>
<p>What they didn&#8217;t mention in that video is the reason that the police took those actions in the first place: New Orleans is crawling with gun-toting thugs (including some cops).</p>
<p>ANd finally, you&#8217;ll be happy to hear that the British government has suspended many of it&#8217;s gun laws for the duration of a famous pagan festival that will take place in London in 2012.</p>
<p>So North Koreans, Vietnamese, Iranian Jihadis and Belorussians will have more rights during the Olympics than will law-abiding Britons.</p>
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		<title>By: zee</title>
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		<dc:creator>zee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Forms 101 and 125 are the minimum.

&lt;/em&gt;They need two referees?!? it's not meant to be anything but a stumbling block. It reminds me of muslims demanding four witnesses to a rape
&lt;em&gt;
Provide information about your former conjugal partners. This includes any person, other than the person named above, with whom you have lived in a conjugal relationship within the last two (2) years. &lt;strong&gt;If you need more space, list the information on a separate sheet of paper.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;/em&gt;
If you need more space? To list conjugal partners? What the hell is going on over there? Abortion industry must be raking it in. You have to freaking laugh. It all is therapeutic in approach, as if they were going in for therapy. No questions asked about politics or religion? Just mating habits, emotional state and substance abuse. So an applicant needs to be stoned, depressed and horny before considered a risk? 

Do muslims get a pass because they are surrounded by "hostile"  infidels. I'd like to see this crap enforced in their no-go zones. Hell, they can just take week-end forays out into the general population and shoot down random infidels for sport, then scurry back to their proper english caves where your unarmed cop won't touch them.  I mean, what is to stop them? Unarmed bobbies?

This is really becoming a nightmare. It only took two weeks in Australia... All we need is for some fool to shoot Obama, riots break out and here they will come - swooping down on law abiding citizens to confiscate guns........
Ok, well, my stomach is in knots </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Forms 101 and 125 are the minimum.</p>
<p></em>They need two referees?!? it&#8217;s not meant to be anything but a stumbling block. It reminds me of muslims demanding four witnesses to a rape<br />
<em><br />
Provide information about your former conjugal partners. This includes any person, other than the person named above, with whom you have lived in a conjugal relationship within the last two (2) years. <strong>If you need more space, list the information on a separate sheet of paper.</strong></p>
<p></em><br />
If you need more space? To list conjugal partners? What the hell is going on over there? Abortion industry must be raking it in. You have to freaking laugh. It all is therapeutic in approach, as if they were going in for therapy. No questions asked about politics or religion? Just mating habits, emotional state and substance abuse. So an applicant needs to be stoned, depressed and horny before considered a risk? </p>
<p>Do muslims get a pass because they are surrounded by &#8220;hostile&#8221;  infidels. I&#8217;d like to see this crap enforced in their no-go zones. Hell, they can just take week-end forays out into the general population and shoot down random infidels for sport, then scurry back to their proper english caves where your unarmed cop won&#8217;t touch them.  I mean, what is to stop them? Unarmed bobbies?</p>
<p>This is really becoming a nightmare. It only took two weeks in Australia&#8230; All we need is for some fool to shoot Obama, riots break out and here they will come - swooping down on law abiding citizens to confiscate guns&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
Ok, well, my stomach is in knots </p>
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		<title>By: zee</title>
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		<dc:creator>zee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Akira, Thank you for this. It is staggering, and of course, the agenda is obvious. I do not know how many times i say to look towards Great Britain, Australia , Europe to see what approaches here.  Then I think of all the weasels in this country who applaud this insanity. 

From your link, a gun owner laments that they failed to fight the anti-gunners, saying that they kept..&lt;em&gt;"Waiting for the truth to be told. But the truth is never told"&lt;/em&gt;

No, the truth is banished. Mocked. Dismissed. Re-framed. I just  wish we had an NRA for free speech....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akira, Thank you for this. It is staggering, and of course, the agenda is obvious. I do not know how many times i say to look towards Great Britain, Australia , Europe to see what approaches here.  Then I think of all the weasels in this country who applaud this insanity. </p>
<p>From your link, a gun owner laments that they failed to fight the anti-gunners, saying that they kept..<em>&#8220;Waiting for the truth to be told. But the truth is never told&#8221;</em></p>
<p>No, the truth is banished. Mocked. Dismissed. Re-framed. I just  wish we had an NRA for free speech&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Akira</title>
		<link>http://roadsassy.com/2008/07/03/nra-we-look-forward-to-showing-him-bitter/#comment-1362</link>
		<dc:creator>Akira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For relevant British Firearms Cart Applications, see: 

http://www.met.police.uk/firearms-enquiries/forms.htm

Forms 101 and 125 are the minimum.

Note that your referees are obliged to inform the police of your physical and mental health, relationship history, and explain your attitudes towards guns. They may be arrested if they leave anything out.

An interview is also required.

Then in order to actually possess a shotgun, you need to fulfill other requirements, including a home-visit from a police officer to inspect your residence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For relevant British Firearms Cart Applications, see: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.met.police.uk/firearms-enquiries/forms.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.met.police.uk/firearms-enquiries/forms.htm</a></p>
<p>Forms 101 and 125 are the minimum.</p>
<p>Note that your referees are obliged to inform the police of your physical and mental health, relationship history, and explain your attitudes towards guns. They may be arrested if they leave anything out.</p>
<p>An interview is also required.</p>
<p>Then in order to actually possess a shotgun, you need to fulfill other requirements, including a home-visit from a police officer to inspect your residence.</p>
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		<title>By: Akira</title>
		<link>http://roadsassy.com/2008/07/03/nra-we-look-forward-to-showing-him-bitter/#comment-1360</link>
		<dc:creator>Akira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Application for a Possession and Acquisition Licence Under the [Candian] Firearms Act:

http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/online-en_ligne/form-assistance/PDFs/921_e.pdf

[448 kb pdf]

Regulations have been relaxed recently.

This is from the present form:

- During the past five (5) years, have you threatened or attempted suicide, or have you suffered from or been diagnosed or treated by a medical practitioner for: depression; alcohol, drug or substance abuse; behavioural problems; or emotional problems?

- During the past five (5) years, do you know if you have been reported to the police or social services for violence, threatened or attempted violence, or other conflict in your home or elsewhere?

- During the past two (2) years, have you experienced a divorce, a separation, a breakdown of a significant relationship, job loss or bankruptcy?

- Do you currently have a spouse, common-law or other conjugal partner?

- Within the last two (2) years have you lived in a conjugal relationship other than with the person you may have referred to above?

- Provide information about your conjugal partner.

- Provide information about your former conjugal partners. This includes any person, other than the person named above, with whom you have lived in a conjugal relationship within the last two (2) years. If you need more space, list the information on a separate sheet of paper.

- If the signature of your former spouse, common-law or other conjugal partner is not provided, the Chief Firearms Officer has a duty to notify them of your application.

- A reference [2 are needed] is anyone who has known you for at least three (3) years and is at least 18 years old. However, he or she CANNOT BE your current conjugal partner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Application for a Possession and Acquisition Licence Under the [Candian] Firearms Act:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/online-en_ligne/form-assistance/PDFs/921_e.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/online-en_ligne/form-assistance/PDFs/921_e.pdf</a></p>
<p>[448 kb pdf]</p>
<p>Regulations have been relaxed recently.</p>
<p>This is from the present form:</p>
<p>- During the past five (5) years, have you threatened or attempted suicide, or have you suffered from or been diagnosed or treated by a medical practitioner for: depression; alcohol, drug or substance abuse; behavioural problems; or emotional problems?</p>
<p>- During the past five (5) years, do you know if you have been reported to the police or social services for violence, threatened or attempted violence, or other conflict in your home or elsewhere?</p>
<p>- During the past two (2) years, have you experienced a divorce, a separation, a breakdown of a significant relationship, job loss or bankruptcy?</p>
<p>- Do you currently have a spouse, common-law or other conjugal partner?</p>
<p>- Within the last two (2) years have you lived in a conjugal relationship other than with the person you may have referred to above?</p>
<p>- Provide information about your conjugal partner.</p>
<p>- Provide information about your former conjugal partners. This includes any person, other than the person named above, with whom you have lived in a conjugal relationship within the last two (2) years. If you need more space, list the information on a separate sheet of paper.</p>
<p>- If the signature of your former spouse, common-law or other conjugal partner is not provided, the Chief Firearms Officer has a duty to notify them of your application.</p>
<p>- A reference [2 are needed] is anyone who has known you for at least three (3) years and is at least 18 years old. However, he or she CANNOT BE your current conjugal partner.</p>
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