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Debbie June 19th, 2008 at 10:40 pm

Well … he’s an elite, he’s a multiculturalist, he’s a Marxist, he has Communist links, he has Muslim links, he’s a puppet on a string ….

He’s scary.

Aurora June 20th, 2008 at 8:22 am

Pernicious said Oh, whatever. Obama doesn’t scare me any more than ideologues like the author of this blog with an anal fixation on their end of the shit stick.

Yeah, we scare you Leftists soooooo much…boo!

Obama? Not a messiah, and not perceived as one. He’s flawed and imperfect, and even he admits that. But he seems to have some good ideas and reasonably solid principles…for a politician.

Solid principles? So what banality is he spurting out this time? It changes with the wind. You could always go by his ’solid’ character, actions and associates; like his planting of activist judges, his support for murdering pre-birth infants right up to the moment of birth, his close ties with his bloodthirsty cousin, Odinga and his good buddy America-hating pastor Jeremiah Wright, his lack of knowledge about such trivialities like how many states in the country he’s running for president for…er a moment or two committing that to memory might show that he actually values and respects the office he’s running for. There’s also his comments about the white boys he went to school with, his referral to the Jewish people as ‘kykes’ in his book, his associations with a pack of Marxist buddies when he was at university…and that’s just off the top of my head. Yeah, he’s a real winner that one.

Try developing a sense of history that accepts responsibility for the seeds of dissent we’ve sown, and maybe you’ll begin to see that we’ve made enemies in the Middle East for over half a century by playing at empire and by propping up corrupt leaders, at the expense of the general population.

How dare you cast blame on the one country that has given its lifeblood and treasure to fight off the Soviet menace, enstate democracy in Latin America and cut Hitler short in his tracks. Just what have you given up? If you want to be ashamed of anyone, be ashamed of yourself and the others like you who can only tear down the cradle that held you and gave you a decent life, material goods, freedom and an education that is the envy of the whole world. Your ingratitude makes me want to puke.

When I hear true honesty and integrity from members of the political right, I take them seriously. But you and your fear-mongering half-truths don’t qualify.

How leftists love to hear themselves muttering the same old hackneyed phrases like ‘fear-mongering’. Zee is going to get on here and kick your ever-loving @$$ into next week but let me also say, WHO GIVES A FLYING RAT’S BUTT whether you think she, I or any of us ‘qualify’. We still have free speech, at least the last time I checked…that is until you and your Stalinesque buddies manage to silence that too. Go bag your head.

zee June 20th, 2008 at 11:18 am

Obama doesn’t scare me any more than ideologues like the author of this blog with an anal fixation on their end of the shit stick.

Oh my, I wake up and find the effluvia of an offended elitist hovering across my post. You are funny Perspicio, but for all your pompous railing, the only impression that you have managed to conjure up is aptly described as a “hissy fit’ - the oh so banal and wholly expected verbal tantrum one has come to anticipate from those pumped up with the pomposity of empty, hot air and a useless education - much like your buddy Obomba, who, by the way, achieves his messianic status via the benumbed leagues of glassy eyed acolytes that attend his slow and painful walk into oblivion, which, if the fates should still look upon America with favor, is where history will assign his sorry ass.

he seems to have some good ideas and reasonably solid principles.

Well, I must commend your super sleuthing powers of detection because, try as I might, I have yet to discern a “good idea” anywhere in his multifaceted vision to transform America from the breadbasket of the world into the world’s 3rd world trash can. And try as I might, I can’t seem to find a single principle to extol in slaughtering infants, goring the rich and splaying America’s legs wide open for the rape coming her way should a man of such ineptitude and moral pusillanimity be given power to reign.

And certainly P, with your gifted powers of discernment you may have detected his autocratic pronouncements concerning the choices individual Americans will be allowed to make concerning their own future. But then, I have found folks like you very susceptible to being led around by the nose as long as the leash that jerks you through your days is gilded with the platitudes that frees you from the cumbersome burden of independent thought and free will.

Must suck to be you.

And as far as history lessons are concerned dear little P, you might dust off a few tomes that weren’t rubber stamped by whatever miserable schools you’ve attended because you seem to believe that Islamic grievances derive from recent history. If you would like to remove that ring from your nose and actually look at Islam as a whole, you’ll find that America plays a very small part in islam’s animus towards the west and it’s all encompassing disdain for freedom. If I fault America at all, it would be our foolish inclination to spread pearls before swine, enabling an atavistic Arab people to hitch a ride on a civilization that they have contributed little to, but now enjoy the fruits thereof. In other words, little boy, for whatever harm American policies may have caused, the benefits from our presence have benefited the middle east far more than had they been left to humping goats, raping women and racing camels while their crude oil bubbled uselessly below them, awaiting the West’s technology to grant them magnificent wealth.

When I hear true honesty and integrity from members of the political right, I take them seriously. But you and your fear-mongering half-truths don’t qualify.

That’s assuming you ever get a grasp of what integrity looks like, but none of your blather suggests that you have a clue.
The political right that you indicate gains your respect are called RINOs, dear P and you are in luck. This country is rife with vacillating spineless cowards who mouth useless rhetoric while walking us all over the abyss.
Enjoy your ride over that edge sir, and do make good on your word not to take riffraff like me seriously. I’d have to re-examine my premises should I ever receive the insult of your respect.

zee June 20th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

Well … he’s an elite, he’s a multiculturalist, he’s a Marxist, he has Communist links, he has Muslim links, he’s a puppet on a string ….

Yup, that would be the entirety of his resume - no wonder the libtards want to hire him

perspicio June 21st, 2008 at 12:30 am

Aurora:

Yeah, we scare you Leftists soooooo much…boo!

You just keep telling yourself that, dear.

You’ve listed several anxieties that you have about Obama, “off the top of my head” as you put it. They are:

whether he would appoint “activist” judges
his position on partial-birth abortion
association with Odinga
association with Jeremiah Wright
whether he knows how many states are in the country he’s running for president for
comments about the white boys he went to school with
referral to the Jewish people as ‘kykes’ in his book
associations with “a pack of Marxist buddies”

I think it’s safe to infer that these are your biggest concerns you have, since they ranked at the top of your list. I was going to go down that list item by item, but you know what? You are clearly committed to your point of view regardless of what anybody says, so it just isn’t worth my time.

As to your follow-up rant, thank you for perfectly epitomizing what I meant by a “My Country Right or Wrong, Except Never Wrong” attitude. Am I ungrateful for the blessings of the US? Hardly. Your falling back on right-wing narratives and casting aspersions on me without basis in fact cheapens your credibility. And refusing to even allow the possibility into your mind that the US has made errors or engaged in morally questionable activities is incredibly naïve and, frankly, given the preponderance of affirmative evidence, pretty stupid.

As for “fear-mongering”, hey, a spade is a spade. A thing does not become more or less true by the simple act of repetition. You don’t think trumping up rhetoric about Iran “obliterating America” and Obama “crippling America militarily” qualifies as fear-mongering? Okay. But don’t be surprised when thinking people blow you and your empty blather off as inconsequential.

The same criticisms apply to you, too, zee. But I’ll waste fewer words on you, since your barren and hysterical ad hominem attacks indicate you’d be even less likely to deal with reality in a level-headed way. Oh, the irony of claiming a “hissy fit” on my part! Mirrors up, little miss can’t-be-wrong. It’s called projection.

By the way, Islam’s “animus” towards the west? Really? Perhaps a little “useless education” would help you actually make your point, instead of undercutting it.

If these are the best arguments the two of you can muster, please…do your worst, okay?

Anyway, thanks for the wonderful time, but I must be on my way. Toodles.

zee June 22nd, 2008 at 4:57 pm

Pbrain sputters:

I was going to go down that list item by item, but you know what? You are clearly committed to your point of view regardless of what anybody says, so it just isn’t worth my time.

Translation: I can’t compose any cogent arguments so I’ll assume an air of superiority.

And refusing to even allow the possibility into your mind that the US has made errors or engaged in morally questionable activities is incredibly naïve and, frankly, given the preponderance of affirmative evidence, pretty stupid.

Translation: I can’t think out of the stereotypical caricature I have of conservatives so I will put words in their mouth, or build a straw man argument.

A thing does not become more or less true by the simple act of repetition.

Apply that to Al Gore and the Obamanista sweetie.

You don’t think trumping up rhetoric about Iran “obliterating America” and Obama “crippling America militarily” qualifies as fear-mongering?

No sweetie, those would be reasonable assumptions based on the rhetoric coming out of Iran and the bilge pouring out of Obama.

By the way, Islam’s “animus” towards the west? Really? Perhaps a little “useless education” would help you actually make your point, instead of undercutting it.

You are so tiresome P, really. That there is animus towards the west is understood. I am saying that it has little to do with America, predates America and would exist if America ceased to exist. They don’t like freedom P, a fact that will become imminently clear to you if your ilk prevails.

please…do your worst, okay?

Well, if I imitated you, I probably would do my worse. As it is, you are a rodent that slipped in for the cats to play with.
Now, as far as ad hominem and projection little boy, your spiels are shining examples of both. Your first words on here:

Obama doesn’t scare me any more than ideologues like the author of this blog with an anal fixation on their end of the shit stick

For your education Pee:

ad hominem 1 : appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect 2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent’s character rather than by an answer to the contentions made

And of course, you never even attempted to address the facts posed in the post. You just came in and vomited. Twice now.

Given you posed no real argument or facts to refute , I simply used the opportunity to spit on you. Thanks for the entertainment Pee. Now why don’t you go wipe that spittle off your face.
And honey, don’t reproduce and don’t dirty up the joint again.

Just Another Richard June 22nd, 2008 at 7:00 pm

Zee. I come here most days and often twice or more. The fact is that the muse has once again deserted me, and one thing I learned a long time ago…if you have nothing cogent to say…say nothing; for when the mind is left idle and wanders, then the fool comes out to play, with all the usual unintended consequences. This beacon of light and virtue who just graced us with his sublime presence is the very standard bearer of that caution about opening one’s mouth, when there is nothing of substance to say.