NRA: “We Look Forward to Showing Him ‘Bitter’,”

The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina

The video you will see…is horrifying. The crimes committed against law-abiding gun owners are beyond comprehension. The arrogance of anti-gun politicians and government officials and their hate of freedom will churn your stomach.

The law is the law, the Constitution is the Constitution. If ONE local mayor or police chief can decide what the Second Amendment means, it opens the door to tyranny—where ANY mayor or police chief can say what the Second Amendment means.
[...]
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, Police Superintendent P. Eddie Compass unleashed a wave of confiscations with these chilling words:
“No one will be able to be armed. We will take all weapons. Only law enforcement will be allowed to have guns.”

Thousands of firearms were then confiscated from law-abiding gun owners. The police gave no paperwork or receipts for those guns. They just stormed in and seized them. (Source)

Thank God for the NRA. They can see right through Barack Obama.

NRA plans $40M fall blitz targeting Obama

“Our members understand that if Barack Obama is elected president, and he has support in the Senate to confirm anti-gun Supreme Court nominees, [the District of Columbia v. Heller decision] could be taken away from us in the future,” Chris Cox, head of the NRA’s political arm, told Politico.
The politically powerful gun rights group will split its message efforts between communicating with its 4 million members and the tens of millions more firearms owners across the country.

Money quote…

“We look forward to showing him ‘bitter,’” Cox said, referring to Obama’s statement this spring that some in rural America “cling” to guns and religion out of bitterness.

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Akira July 4th, 2008 at 5:36 pm

This related video is just as instructive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkS2BRoCd2I

QUOTE:

England’s increasingly repressive firearms laws often are praised by those who would restrict the American right to arms, so it is important to realize that those firearms laws, which now prohibit the private possession of handguns, rest heavily on one foundation–the British gun owner licensing system. The right to keep and bear arms had been alive in England for eight centuries when Parliament enacted the Pistols Act of 1903. The Act, which prohibited the sale of pistols to minors and felons, also dictated that pistols could be sold only to those who possessed a gun license. Since the license could be obtained at a post office with only the payment of a fee, and since no license was required to keep a pistol solely in the home, there was no opposition. But within a few short years, the licensing system had moved from the post office to the police station. Suddenly, Britons who wanted to own handguns–or rifles–had to prove they had “good reason” for receiving a police permit. Shotguns were considered “sporting” and were exempted from licensing requirements until 1967.
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If requiring gun owners to obtain a government license seems like a harmless idea to you, you may want to know about “Firearms Form 101.” That’s the “Application For A Firearms Certificate” that must be filled out by Britons in order to purchase a rifle or muzzleloading handgun. A separate form is required for a “shotgun certificate.”

Section 27 of the Firearms Act of 1968 (as amended by the 1997 Act) requires a chief officer of the Police Firearms Licensing Department to be satisfied that the applicant is “fit to be entrusted with a firearm.” (Emphasis added) As the applicant, you must provide: * Your home address for the last three years. * Your occupation and business address. * Information about previous convictions, including traffic violations. * Information about any history of Epilepsy. * Information about past treatment for drug use, depression or nervous disorders. * The name of your doctor, and permission for the police to search your medical records to obtain “factual details” about your medical history. * A list of the firearms you already own, including caliber, type, maker’s name and serial number. * A list of the ammunition you already own, including caliber and quantity. * A list of the firearms you wish to purchase, stating the reason for wanting to purchase them and where you plan on shooting or hunting with them. * A list of the maximum amount of ammunition you wish to possess at any one time, by caliber. * A list of the maximum amount of ammunition you plan to purchase at any one time, by caliber. * An address where the guns will be stored, for possible future inspection. * Information about whether you have previously held a firearms certificate, or a shotgun certificate. * A letter signed by the secretary of your shooting club or each landowner where you plan to hunt attesting to the fact that you have permission to shoot at those locations. * Four passport size photos of yourself. * A fee of 56 Pounds (approximately $90).

[In Canada, you need permission from anyone you lived with or had sex with in the previous five years. You also have to reveal any history of anti-depressants.]

As an applicant, you must also designate two “referees” who will fill out a reference form regarding your character. This form will never be shown to you even though it weighs heavily in the final decision to approve or deny the application. The “referees” must: * Have known you for at least the last two years. * Not be a member of your family, a firearms dealer, a police officer or a police employee. * Be of “good character.” * Sign the application form declaring that it has been answered truthfully. * Sign and date the back of one of your passport photos attesting that it is an accurate representation of you at that time. * Explain in what capacity they have known you. * Indicate if they are members of a shooting club, and if so their license number and role in the club. * Provide their “opinion as to the applicant’s suitability to possess firearms.” * Provide information on your personal history, including any history of emotional problems, mental or physical disabilities and explain how knowledge of the information was gained. * Explain any difficulties you have with members of your family which “may give cause for concern given that a firearm or ammunition may be available in the household.” * Explain their knowledge of your experience with firearms. * Explain their knowledge of your attitude toward firearms. * Be subjected to a background check and allow personal information to be held on a police computer.

These measures have put Draconian regulations on the law-abiding gun owners of Great Britain and done little to reduce crime. On Jan. 16, 2000, the London Times published an article about the increase in gun crimes, and bemoaning the fact that there are an estimated three million unregistered guns in the nation. Besides confirming the inescapable fact that criminals don’t bother to license their guns, the article stated that fatal shootings in London more than doubled between 1998 and 1999, and overall armed crime rose 10%.

So, if licensing honest gun owners doesn’t reduce crime–and how could it?–what is the real purpose? For British gun owners, the answer came too late, when the government that licensed them finally decreed that they were not “fit to be entrusted” to own handguns for any reason. Gun owners in the U.S. cannot plead ignorance–here the true purpose of licensing gun owners was defined nearly a quarter-century ago by the first Chair of Handgun Control, Inc. “Our ultimate goal,” Pete Shields said, is “to make the the possession of all handguns and handgun ammunition . . . totally illegal

Akira July 4th, 2008 at 5:57 pm

One change from the old form in Canada. Sex partners are not asked about, so as to protect homosexuals’ privacy. Nowyou only have to detail any “significant relationships” and “conjugal partners”. And the time period has been shortened.

Now you only have to give the following information:

- During the past five (5) years, have you threatened or attempted suicide, or have you suffered from or been diagnosed [including misdiagnoses] or treated by a medical practitioner for: DEPRESSION; alcohol, drug or substance abuse; BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS; or EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS?

- During the past five (5) years, do you know if you have been reported to the police or SOCIAL SERVICES for violence, threatened or attempted violence, or other CONFLICT IN YOUR HOME OR ELSEWHERE?

- During the past two (2) years, have you experienced a DIVORCE, a SEPARATION, a BREAKDOWN of a significant relationship, JOB LOSS or BANKRUPTCY?

- Do you currently have a spouse, common-law or other conjugal partner?

- Within the last two (2) years have you lived in a conjugal relationship other than with the person you may have referred to in question 17 a) above?

- Provide information about your conjugal partner.

- Provide information about your FORMER conjugal partners. This includes any person, other than the person named in Box 18, with whom you have lived in a conjugal relationship within the last two (2) years. If you need more space, list the  information on a separate sheet of paper.

- If the signature of your former spouse, common-law or other conjugal partner is not provided, the Chief Firearms Officer has a DUTY to NOTIFY THEM of your application.

- A reference [2 are needed] is anyone who has known you for at least three (3) years and is at least 18 years old. However, he or she CANNOT BE your current conjugal partner.

Canadian Application for a Possession and Acquisition Licence Under the Firearms Act:

http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/online-en_ligne/form-assistance/PDFs/921_e.pdf

[448 kb pdf]

More info:

Firearms are classified into one of three categories: non-restricted, restricted, and prohibited. There are regulations for transport, storage, and display of firearms in each of these three classes.
CLASSES OF FIREARMS

full-automatic firearms
sawed-off rifles or shotguns with barrel length less than 457mm (18 inches); this does not apply to firearms manufactured with short barrels
sawed-off rifles or shotguns with overall length less than 660mm (26 inches); this does not apply to firearms manufactured with short stocks or short barrels
handguns with a barrel less than 105mm (4.14 inches), except certain specifically listed competition handguns which are restricted
handguns in caliber .25 or .32, except certain specifically listed competition handguns which are restricted
silencers
large capacity magazines for a semi-automatic center-fire firearm. What constitutes “large capacity” varies; as a general rule, the maximum capacity is 5 rounds for long guns, 10 rounds for handguns “commonly found in Canada”, and 5 rounds for handguns “not commonly found in Canada.” Magazines for rimfire cartridges, the 8-round clips used in the M1 Garand, and 10 round Lee Enfield rifle magazines are exempted by name from this prohibition.
any of a long list of firearms specifically listed as prohibited. With few exceptions, if it has a remotely military appearance, it is prohibited.
replicas of firearms
any type of Taser or other firearm that discharges a dart or other object carrying an electrical current.
tear gas, Mace or other gas, or any liquid spray, power or other substance that is capable of injuring, immobilizing or otherwise incapacitating any person
any type of stun gun or other electrical charge device of length less than 480mm
a large additional class of prohibited weapons, such as nunchakus, switchblades, brass knuckles, etc. which are not discussed here. Read the list here if you care.

Prohibited firearms, devices, and weapons are:
That’s right, you’re not allowed to use non-lethal means of self-defense in Canada. This would seem to ban pepper spray for use against bears, but apparently there are some forms of bear spray which are legal for use in Canada.
 

According to the Canada National Firearms Association:
“Pepper spray is legal if it is intended for use on vicious animals, and is a prohibited weapon if intended for use on vicious humans. On the other hand, if you carry it to protect yourself from vicious animals, and are attacked by a vicious human, it is legal to use it on that vicious human. It doesn’t have to make sense, it is government policy.”

The complete list of named prohibited fireams, named restricted firearms, prohibited weapons, prohibited devices (including the exemptions for rimfire magazines, M1 Garand clips, and Lee Enfield magazines discussed above), and prohibited ammunition is here; however this list does not include firearms which are prohibited or restricted due to characteristics.
A summary focusing specifically on firearms, including characteristics which would render a firearm prohibited or restricted, is here; this summary also lists the competition handguns which are exempted by name from being prohibited and are instead restricted.
The ownership of prohibited firearms which were registered prior to their being prohibited is grandfathered by Firearms Act section 12(6). Ownership of grandfathered firearms can be transfered to other grandfathered owners of prohibited firearms of a similar type.
 

Catch-22, Canada-style:
Some 12(6) handguns were not prohibited until December 1, 1998. Originally, only handguns registered prior to February 14, 1995 were grandfrathered. Thus, handguns purchased and registered as restricted firearms prior to December 1, 1998, but prohibited on that date were not grandfathered.
These handguns were put under an amnesty which expired on December 31, 2005. The actual registration for these firearms under the old law expired on December 31, 2002. Parliament passed a new law (C-10A) which extended grandfathering to these firearms, but only for individuals who had a valid registration certificate for at least one prohibited firearm prior to December 1, 1998.
The Catch-22 was that those individuals who did not own a prohibited firearm prior to February 14, 1995 were not allowed to register their newly-prohibited (on December 1, 1998) firearm as a prohibited firearm, since they were not grandfathered. Thus, they were only able to keep them under the amnesty. When grandfathering was extended, it was too late for them to claim grandfathering for themselves, although they could transfer the firearm to an individual who does have grandfathering.
Do you understand all this? Didn’t think so.

The privileged class of grandfathered 12(6) handgun owners will become extinct within a generation. The exception to this are grandfathered owners of 12(6) handguns manufactured before 1946; these can be transfered to heirs as a section 12(7) firearm, but the new owner can not buy other 12(6) handguns.
Now you know what so many fine old Lugers, Walther PPs, etc. have suddenly appeared in the US market in recent years; these have all become prohibited in Canada, and were exported to save them from being melted.

handguns which are not prohibited, including the competition handguns listed here
semi-automatic centerfire firearms with a barrel length less than 470mm (18.5 inches) which are not prohibited
firearms, which can be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660mm (26 inches) by folding/telescoping/etc., which are not prohibited
any of a list of firearms specifically listed as restricted. The most notable entries are the AR-15 and variants, which stand out as being military-appearance firearms which are not prohibited, and a list of competition handguns which are exempted from being prohibited in spite of their characteristics. A list can be found here.

Restricted firearms are:

shotguns and rifles which are not restricted or prohibited
the M1 Garand and Lee Enfield rifles, which otherwise would be prohibited due to their large capacity clip or magazine.
some military-appearance firearms (including some similar to the AR-15) which the bureaucrats haven’t found out about yet

Non-restricted firearms are:
Note that there is no such thing as a “non-restricted handgun.” ALL handguns are either restricted or prohibited.

any firearm other than a handgun manufactured before 1898 that was not designed to discharge rim-fire or center-fire ammunition and that has not been redesigned to discharge such ammunition, or
or any firearm that is prescribed to be an antique firearm.

Antique firearms are:
Antique firearms are exempt from the provisions of the Firearms Act and some parts of the Criminal Code. However, antique firearms may also be restricted or prohibited, and that means something different with respect to an antique than it does for non-antique firearms. I won’t go into that here; the Canada National Firearms Association has long articles available on this topic if you are interested.
Note that this is more restrictive than the US definition of antique firearms; all Canadian antique firearms are also US antique firearms, but the reverse is not true.

exempt from most of the requirements of the Firearms Act if “not designed or adapted to discharge a shot, bullet or other projectile at a muzzle velocity exceeding 152.4 meters per second (500 feet per second) and at a muzzle energy exceeding 5.7 Joules.”
subject to all the requirements of the Firearms Act if it exceeds the 152.4 meters/second muzzle velocity and 5.7 Joule muzzle energy limits. This means that the owner must possess a firearms license, registration certificate, and (if the airgun falls under the restricted or prohibited categories) an Authorization to Transport

Airguns are:
Note that word “and“; prior to the passage of Bill C-10A it was an “or“. That meant that if either the muzzle velocity or muzzle energy limits were exceeded, then the owner must possess a firearms license, registration certificate, and possibly also an Authorization to Transport.

PROHIBITED FIREARMS, DEVICES, AND WEAPONS
RESTRICTED FIREARMS
NON-RESTRICTED FIREARMS
ANTIQUE FIREARMS
AIRGUNS
Antique firearms, and airguns that are exempt from the Firearms Act, are still “firearms” for some purposes of the Criminal Code, most notably section 87 which is the offense of pointing a firearm at another person. This means that it is a criminal offense to point a paintball gun at anyone. The police have not enforced this, but the fact remains that paintball games are technically illegal in Canada!
There are some other amusing quirks in these definitions. For example, a break action shotgun manufactured with a 16 inch barrel (or even shorter!) is an NFA firearm in the US, but is non-restricted in Canada! So are a Brazilian 30-shot Urko .22 rimfire rifle with a 9-3/4″ barrel, and a Mossberg 14″ pump 12-gauge.
It is still possible to join the class of owners of restricted and non-restricted firearms. You need an extra endorsment on your license to possess restricted or prohibited firearms, and as noted above if you don’t already have the endorsement for prohibited firearms you can’t get it now.
 

FIREARMS REGULATIONS

The transport regulations apply when firearms are in a vehicle, no matter how long the firearms have been in the vehicle or how long it has been since the vehicle was last moved.
All firearms must be unloaded while in transport. Muzzle-loading firearms may be transported loaded between hunting sites if the firing cap or flint is removed.
Non-restricted firearms must be safely locked in the trunk or similar compartment; if there is no trunk or compartment, they must be out of sight if the vehicle is unattended. Although it is technically legal for a firearm in an attended vehicle to be in plain sight, police often do not know that; so it is safer to keep it out of sight.
Restricted and prohibited firearms must also be rendered unable to be fired by using a secure locking device AND locked in a heavy-duty, non-see-through container that can not be easily broken open or into. In addition, there must be a valid Authorization to Transport. Finally, fully-automatic firearms must have their bolt or bolt carrier removed if possible.
 

using a secure locking device
removing the bolt or bolt carrier
locking in a sturdy, secure container or room that cannot be easily broken open or into

using a secure locking device AND locked in a heavy-duty, non-see-through container or room that can not be easily broken open or into
securely locked in a safe, vault, or room that has been built or adapted for the safe storage of restricted and prohibited firearms

 

IMPORTANT:
There have been reports of people being charged for “unsafe storage” of a firearm in a vehicle in Canada.
According to the Canada National Firearms Association, there is no such offense, because it is legally impossible to “store” a firearm in a vehicle. A firearm in a vehicle is being “transported”, not “stored”, no matter how long it has been in the vehicle or how long it has been since the vehicle was last moved. Consequently, in all cases involving a firearm in a vehicle, the transport regulations apply, not the storage regulations.
If you encounter a problem, contact the National Firearms Association at +1 (780) 439-1394.

The storage regulations only affect visitors if they are storing a firearm in Canada in some place other than a vehicle. This is fortunate, since the storage regulations are quite a bit more complex and restrictive than the transport regulations.
The storage regulations apply to all firearms.
All firearms must be stored unloaded. This is the only storage regulation which applies to antique firearms. The remainder of this section refers to the storage of non-antique firearms.
Non-restricted firearms must be rendered unable to be fired by one of the following measures:
In addition, the non-restricted firearms must be in a place where ammunition for the firearm is not easy to obtain. Ammunition may be stored with the firearm if it is securely locked in a sturdy container that cannot be easily broken open or into (the firearms can also be stored in such a container with the ammunition).
An exception is made for non-restricted firearms being used for predator control in areas where it is legal to discharge a firearm. An unloaded firearm used for predator control can be temporarily stored unlocked and out in the open if the firearms can be discharged at that location without breaking a law.
Restricted and prohibited firearms must be rendered unable to be fired by one of the following measures:
In addition, the restricted and/or prohibited firearms must be stored in a place where ammunition for the firearm is not easy to obtain. Ammunition may be stored with the firearm if it is securely locked in a sturdy container that cannot be easily broken open or into (the firearms can also be stored in such a container with the ammunition), OR in a securely locked safe, vault, or room built or adapted for the safe storage of restricted and prohibited firearms. Finally, fully-automatic firearms must have their bolt or bolt carrier removed if possible, unless there are stored in a securely locked safe, vault, or room built or adpted for the secure storage of prohibited firearms.
 

Non-restricted firearms only require a locking device if they are detached from the display.
Ammunition may be displayed with the firearm if it is securely locked in a sturdy container that cannot be easily broken open or into.
A firearm may be removed from the display to permit handling if it is rendered unable to be fired by using a secure locking device AND it is under the direct and immediate supervision of the person displaying the firearms.

Canada also has a set of regulations by which firearms may be displayed. These regulations are different depending upon class of firearm and where the firearm is being displayed (at home, away from home, or at a gun show).
I won’t go into the display regulations in much detail, because they don’t generally affect visitors to Canada with the exception of gun shows.
Firearms being displayed at gun shows must be unloaded AND securely attached to the display (with something strong, such as a chain or metal cable, so that the firearms can not be removed easily) AND be rendered unable to be fired by using a secure locking device AND in a place where ammunition for the firearm is not displayed and not easy to obtain. Fully-automatic firearms must have their bolt or bolt carrier removed if possible.
There are limited exceptions:

There are regulations for transport, storage, and display of firearms in each of these three classes. The most important of these to non-residents are the transport regulations.
Any firearm used in a crime in Canada, including so-called “temporary careless storage”, is forfeit to the government (”the Crown”) and destroyed. Consequently, it is extremely important to read and understand these regulations, and understand the difference between transport and storage.
TRANSPORT REGULATIONS
STORAGE REGULATIONSDISPLAY REGULATIONS
 

Akira July 4th, 2008 at 6:03 pm

Application for a Possession and Acquisition Licence Under the [Candian] Firearms Act:

http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/online-en_ligne/form-assistance/PDFs/921_e.pdf

[448 kb pdf]

Regulations have been relaxed recently.

This is from the present form:

- During the past five (5) years, have you threatened or attempted suicide, or have you suffered from or been diagnosed or treated by a medical practitioner for: depression; alcohol, drug or substance abuse; behavioural problems; or emotional problems?

- During the past five (5) years, do you know if you have been reported to the police or social services for violence, threatened or attempted violence, or other conflict in your home or elsewhere?

- During the past two (2) years, have you experienced a divorce, a separation, a breakdown of a significant relationship, job loss or bankruptcy?

- Do you currently have a spouse, common-law or other conjugal partner?

- Within the last two (2) years have you lived in a conjugal relationship other than with the person you may have referred to above?

- Provide information about your conjugal partner.

- Provide information about your former conjugal partners. This includes any person, other than the person named above, with whom you have lived in a conjugal relationship within the last two (2) years. If you need more space, list the information on a separate sheet of paper.

- If the signature of your former spouse, common-law or other conjugal partner is not provided, the Chief Firearms Officer has a duty to notify them of your application.

- A reference [2 are needed] is anyone who has known you for at least three (3) years and is at least 18 years old. However, he or she CANNOT BE your current conjugal partner.

Akira July 4th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

For relevant British Firearms Cart Applications, see:

http://www.met.police.uk/firearms-enquiries/forms.htm

Forms 101 and 125 are the minimum.

Note that your referees are obliged to inform the police of your physical and mental health, relationship history, and explain your attitudes towards guns. They may be arrested if they leave anything out.

An interview is also required.

Then in order to actually possess a shotgun, you need to fulfill other requirements, including a home-visit from a police officer to inspect your residence.

zee July 4th, 2008 at 6:33 pm

Akira, Thank you for this. It is staggering, and of course, the agenda is obvious. I do not know how many times i say to look towards Great Britain, Australia , Europe to see what approaches here.  Then I think of all the weasels in this country who applaud this insanity.

From your link, a gun owner laments that they failed to fight the anti-gunners, saying that they kept..“Waiting for the truth to be told. But the truth is never told”

No, the truth is banished. Mocked. Dismissed. Re-framed. I just  wish we had an NRA for free speech….

zee July 4th, 2008 at 6:53 pm

Forms 101 and 125 are the minimum.

They need two referees?!? it’s not meant to be anything but a stumbling block. It reminds me of muslims demanding four witnesses to a rape

Provide information about your former conjugal partners. This includes any person, other than the person named above, with whom you have lived in a conjugal relationship within the last two (2) years. If you need more space, list the information on a separate sheet of paper.


If you need more space? To list conjugal partners? What the hell is going on over there? Abortion industry must be raking it in. You have to freaking laugh. It all is therapeutic in approach, as if they were going in for therapy. No questions asked about politics or religion? Just mating habits, emotional state and substance abuse. So an applicant needs to be stoned, depressed and horny before considered a risk?

Do muslims get a pass because they are surrounded by “hostile”  infidels. I’d like to see this crap enforced in their no-go zones. Hell, they can just take week-end forays out into the general population and shoot down random infidels for sport, then scurry back to their proper english caves where your unarmed cop won’t touch them.  I mean, what is to stop them? Unarmed bobbies?

This is really becoming a nightmare. It only took two weeks in Australia… All we need is for some fool to shoot Obama, riots break out and here they will come - swooping down on law abiding citizens to confiscate guns……..
Ok, well, my stomach is in knots 

Akira July 4th, 2008 at 7:19 pm

Hi again.

While there are some people who want guns banned no matter what, I believe that most people, whether in Canada, the US, Australia or the UK, are just well-intentioned but ill-informed.

Most people who say things like, “If you have to register a car, then what’s the big deal about registering a car?” have no idea what is involved.

Imagine asking people on their driving test, “have you ever been involved in any kind of conflict? Do you have any kind of emotional problem? Give me a list of everyone you’ve been involved with. And I’ll need someone to vouch for your character.”

The fact that most people are unaware that gun possession and gun homicides (and knifings, home invasions, etc) have increased in the UK since handguns were banned in 1997 is further proof (if needed…) that reporters are overwhelmingly statist.

Re New Orleans, do these people just complain? Or have they/NRA/lawyers taken action, such as suing Ray Nagin or having him charged federally for 2nd amendment rights violations?

What they didn’t mention in that video is the reason that the police took those actions in the first place: New Orleans is crawling with gun-toting thugs (including some cops).

ANd finally, you’ll be happy to hear that the British government has suspended many of it’s gun laws for the duration of a famous pagan festival that will take place in London in 2012.

So North Koreans, Vietnamese, Iranian Jihadis and Belorussians will have more rights during the Olympics than will law-abiding Britons.

zee July 4th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

So North Koreans, Vietnamese, Iranian Jihadis and Belorussians will have more rights during the Olympics than will law-abiding Britons.

Boy, you are just chock full of cheery news aren’t you?! :-|

…do these people just complain? Or have they/NRA/lawyers taken action, such as suing Ray Nagin or having him charged federally for 2nd amendment rights violations?

Good question. Seems that they did step in.

NEW ORLEANS — Under pressure from the National Rifle Association, police this week began returning guns confiscated after Hurricane Katrina.

The police department is making the guns available three days a week. At the close of the second day Wednesday, police said only 17 of about 700 weapons had been returned.

Police and soldiers removed guns from houses after the storm flooded the city, and they confiscated guns from some evacuees.

The NRA and other groups sued the city, saying it took away people’s means of protection amid the lawlessness that gripped New Orleans.

“Natural disasters may destroy great cities, but they do not destroy civil rights,” said Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, which joined the NRA in the lawsuit.

The lawsuit was dropped after the city agreed to return the guns.

are just well-intentioned but ill-informed.

and conditioned by media to have a knee jerk reaction to the sight of a gun. I do not know how many shows I have watched where, at the appearance of a gun, some character flinches and winces and demands the gun be sent out of the house or some such nonsense.

Akira July 4th, 2008 at 8:43 pm

Violent crime has doubled since Labour came to power a decade ago. Stabbings and assault in Britain are now common, if not daily occurrences; at night city centers are generally regarded as no-go areas; “feral” youths and gangs loitering the streets – often drunk on cheap alcohol – make many people too afraid to go for a walk on a summer evening.
continue reading

MK July 4th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

Thanks for posting this video. I had a feeling that scumbag Nagin was behind it. This shows why the citizens need to bear arms, when the state turns nasty. I hope those people got lawyers and sued the pants off the state in that case.

MK July 4th, 2008 at 10:25 pm

And yes, this is where licensing leads, that’s just the start, get people to fill in forms and soon it’ll be why, then how many, what type, how many bullets and eventually just one gun becomes no gun.

zee July 5th, 2008 at 12:26 am

Hi MK,
 I hope those people got lawyers and sued the pants off the state in that case.
In one of the comments above I link to the NRA going to bat for them, but, you are right, they need to sue Nagin and whomever else.
Isn’t the licensing absurd? It’s like some half-wits attempt at sloppy psychological profiling. It is anal retentive and ever so representative of the “progressive’s” control freak mindset. They pride themselves on “nuancing”. I’d simply call it neurotic.

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